French minister Luc Ferry, in Le Monde, has invoked famed Indo-European philologist F. de Saussure’s first general principle of linguistics (i.e., the arbitrary nature of the linguistic sign) in defense of the proposed French ban on beards (and headscarves) in school. [via Crooked Timber] I’m trying to imagine Rumsfeld citing Dwight Whitney or Leonard Bloomfield.
Posted by jim at January 24, 2004 10:57 AM | TrackBackI don't understand how this is a defense of the law. It seems like the argument could work both ways. It certainly shows the futility of trying to ban all religious signs, since anything could be such a sign. Reminds me of how Catholic school students subtly alter their uniform to add individual style. This is truly absurd in light of the fact that the ban addresses "large" crosses, but not small ones. If the sign is arbitrary then size shouldn't matter!
Saussure himself was not happy about the arbitrary sign. He devoted himself to the study of anagrams in an attempt to disprove his own theory.
Here is some crazy stuff from Lacan on Saussure and religion.
(Looking back at Crooked Timber, I see many of these points have already been made in some way or another in the comments there.)
Posted by: Kerim Friedman on January 27, 2004 06:23 AMI have to agree with on this one. I was just pointing out that some politician had actually heard of Saussure, not that he understood him. I have a small book by Jean Starobinski called Words Upon Words that discusses Saussure's fascination (and sometimes dread) with all the secret anagrams in Latin poetry. Watkins discusses it a little in his How to Kill a Dragon book.
Posted by: jim on January 27, 2004 07:35 AMFerry isn't just "some politician," of course: he's a noted philosopher - educated largely in German out of contempt for the French scene of the 60s - who has taught at the Sorbonne. He's collaborated (eg.) on a French translation of Kant.
He probably does understand Saussure better than that, and the outburst has been written off as underthough toungage in the France.
Posted by: des on January 28, 2004 08:58 AMDes-- Thanks for giving us the low-down on Luc. And shame on me for not recognizing his name; I actually read one of his (& Alain Renaut's) books: Heidegger and Modernity.
Posted by: jim on January 28, 2004 09:24 AM"It certainly shows the futility of trying to ban all religious signs, since anything could be such a sign" - I totally agree with Kerim. How can it be a defense of the law?
Posted by: Chrisrine on October 19, 2004 11:03 AMI don't think any of us agree with M. Ferry in this instance, least of all me.
Posted by: jim on October 19, 2004 01:19 PM